Dogs and Iced Water - not a good idea?

Hi Folks,

had an email from a friend this morning with this extract on it from an unknown (albeit probably american) source. Thought it would provoke some interesting discussions if nothing else and certainly it is relevant with the hot weather at present. This also ties in with the previous topic of "Heatstroke Survival Guide" about the do's and dont's of cooling your dog down:

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Hello Everyone,

I am writing this in hopes that some may learn from what I just went through. We were having a good weekend till Saturday. On Saturday I showed my Baran and left the ring. He was looking good and at the top of his game. He had a chance at no less then one of the two AOM's.

It did not work out that way. After showing we went back to our site/set up and got the dogs in their crates to cool off. After being back about 30 min. I noticed Baran was low on water. I took a hand full of ice from my cooler and put it in his bucket with more water. We then started to get all the dogs Ex'ed and food ready for them.

I had Baran in his 48' crate in the van because this is the place he loves to be. He loves to be able to see everyone and everything. After checking him and thinking he was cooled off enough, we fed him. We walked around and one of my friends stated that Baran seamed like he was choking. I went over and checked on him. He was dry heaving and drooling. I got him out of the crate to check him over and noticed he had not eaten. He was in some distress. I checked him over from head to toe and did not notice anything. I walked him around for about a minute when I noticed that he was starting to bloat. I did everything I was taught to do in this case. I was not able to get him to burp, and we gave him Phasezime.

We rushed Baran to a vet clinic. We called ahead and let them know we were on our way. They were set up and waiting for us. They got Baran stablized very quickly. After Baran was stable and out of distress we transported him to AVREC where he went into surgery to make sure no damage was done to any of his vital organs. I am very happy to say Baran is doing great, there was no damage to any vital organs, and he still loves his food.

In surgery the vet found that Baran's stomach was in its normal anatomic position. We went over what had happened. When I told the vet about the ice water, he asked why I gave him ice water. I said that I have always done this. I told him my history behind this practice and his reply was, "I have been very lucky." The ice water I gave Baran caused violent muscle spasms in his stomach which caused the bloating. Even though I figured his temperature was down enough to feed, and gave him this ice water, I was wrong. His internal temperature was still high. The vet stated that giving a dog ice to chew or ice water is a big NO, NO! There is no reason for a dog to have ice/ice water. Normal water at room temperature, or cooling with cold towels on the inner thigh, is the best way to help cool a dog. The vet explained it to me like this: If you, as a person, fall into a frozen lake what happens to your muscles? They cramp. This is the same as a dog's stomach.

I felt the need to share this with everyone, in the hopes that some may learn from what I went through, I do not wish this on anyone. Baran is home now doing fine. So please if you do use ice and ice water, beware of what could happen.

Thanks Ali,

This could also be a reason why so many of our lovely breed has suffered bloat in the winter months as alot of dogs have buckets outside & the water can freeze over, or become extremely cold & with the dog then drinking this puts the body into 'shock'.

We have always used room temp water with fans to cool them off if they are at home or in the van etc, & cold towels on the inner thighs.

Can i copy this to the uk st bernard forum too? Many on there are not members of other forums & I think it would potentially help as I have heard that some people do give ice to chew or even in their water.

Hi Kathy,

yes, by all means use this wherever it may be of benefit. The email has come from a friend of mine who judges and breeds other breeds (not sure where she has received it from) and as it is in the public domain I can't see an issue with copying it.

Ali