just as an update this puppy came out on its own, well it came out breech and got stuck
contractions started, feet appeared and then contractions stopped after we had feet! there was no choice but to try and pull the pup out really so with a bit of a wiggle i got him out, dead as could be........ i dont know how long he was dead but we didnt get him breathing.
ive never known contactions to stop once the feet were out.... maybe hormones were low or maybe her body felt it was finished????
we did have the bitch scanned on her due date ( 2 days before she gave birth) and the puppy was normal size.... we measured other puppies ready to compare when we scanned her,
so it wasnt the pup was too big more the bitch had NO push NO contractions at all!
cheri